Cant raffle characters anymore.

Good plan though!

IBTL and wut?

I'm sure there is a flaw in your plan, and CCP will point it out shortly....

Simpler way biomass - you wont' be missed

lottery, raffle who cares I am trusted by CCP I could call it this

DNSBlack is thinking about commiting eve suicide. CCP thru there words and actions on this site are cyber bulling me into killing off my character. Please go and by a GTC from the GOON store they have negotiated the best price with me and you will be given a save Black isk credit and entered into the raffle to save my character from Biomass suicide. I want to support the goons cause The Mittani has done such a great job in supporting anti bully programs since his drunken miss step.

Are we having fun yet.

Whoa did i miss something here. Does this mean its now possible, in a round-about sort of way, to convert your isk into cash?

Since when did this become possible?

After further review of the thread, I am unlocking this thread, but I ask that any issue you raise is presented in the proper fashion. I apologize for any incorrect judgments made on my part. Thank you.

Let me help you - raffles for characters have never been allowed, regardless of the level of trolling butthurt about website advertising banners in the raffle.

And threads about quitting eve have never been allowed anywhere but OOPE.

So....there's your rule review.

These are all grey areas now. Also if you look at the title of this post; Iam looking for a third party GTC seller backing. I am sure we will find the grey area in the word raffle together.

Greetings,

Any form of ETC trading outside of the CCP created system is not permitted or supported by CCP. We are currently investigating if the sort of ETC resale (resale by an unauthorized reseller) is permitted. We appreciate your patience while we investigate this matter.

Exactly! By authorizing wholesalers, you authorize resale of their goods by definition.

while everyone is cheering for OP, has anyone realized this is one step closer to CCP selling items directly for money? it would be an extension of OP's logic

Just so I'm clear, even though this is hilarious and I said the EULA forbids this specific behavior that doesn't mean I don't think CCP can decide to grandfather people into these situations and that you're not a giant bunch of spoiled paying customers.

I'm referring to various reactions of people calling for people's jobs, threatening people's lives, wishing harm upon people's families, the usual over the top and completely unnecessary nonsense that occurs whenever anonymous videogame nerds on the internet have "their" toys moved in the slightest

eve players are just particularly bad

Because Somer

A)diesn't ask for thousends of dollar
B) CCP is getting a share
C) they are atleast trying to hide it
D) do you really think that the website is free? With all these gamer constantly refreshing it?

I would be surprised if Somer is even doing a profit from the GTC sales.

f5 faster, read facebook, read twitter

You're seeing the "polite" portions of the conversation

Between having a website (frm 0$ up to 16.000$) and running a high traffic website you can accumulate very fast some very big bills.

Th problem with all the accusations agais t Somer is that we don't hav any numbers. And the few bloggers who tried to do that were really ****** up. Never played Somer , were biased or just stupid.

But all these people are quick with accusation and even worse, with judging o.O

Hopefully CCP will investigate Somer a little bit closer . Perhaps an audit? XD

But Somer doesn't have any advertisment on their site. So the only money they are getting is from the GTC . Which can't be that much. Markee Dragon is getting his share and CCP is getting the big one. 2$ per GTC sold over Somer seems like a reasonable value . Would be several houndred dollars per month for Somer.

...and why would SOMER not put in adwords ads? You think that just slipped his mind or it never occurred to him? That HE is so dedicated to having a clean aesthetic to the site? Maybe he just hates money?

That's insane.

I can't read his mind, but I'll tell you what my thinking would be in his shoes:

I don't want my users thinking about how I pull RL income from this site. I want them to be as oblivious as possible to the RL money side of things for 2 reasons: 1) It's a gambling site, so it's in my interest to make people disassociate their SOMER credits from RL money as much as possible. This is the same reason you play with "chips" instead of cash in any casino in the world. 2) I don't want my players thinking about how I can make money on my site and they cannot do the same. This is a good gravy train I'm running and I don't want it going off the tracks. Also: I'm making so much off the affiliate links that other ad blocks wouldn't be valuable enough to pay for the space they'd need allotted on the site. Finally, part of the service I provide my clients is extending the immersive experience of EvE out of the game. I do my users a disservice by breaking the immersiveness with ads.

Since when are adwords ads forbidden or wrong? Did you ever visited Chribbas sites? Or Battleclinic?

And if Somer is really making so much money with Google, then they really don't need the GTC's ;-)

But Somer can be played with real money.

So, there you have your grey area. Which shouldn't be there. Easy solution, Somer should stopping giving free Credits with the GTC. I mean, you get enough from the achievements and free promos. If you are addicted -> buy a plex.